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Old 06-24-2009 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
You misunderstood me. My point wasn't a "Take it or leave it" deal in integration. BB is going after the F9 group prior to them joining us using the fact they are in BK as leverage. As a separate pilot group under a different union there's no help the Teamsters here can offer. Once Frontier pilots are on the RAH seniority list, however it happens, the payscales for the aircraft they fly must be negotiated for by our(including frontier) union. This will take leverage away from the company and give it to the pilots. The aircraft can't be operated without agreed upon wages(unless i'm reading things wrong). By having the Frontier guys get on our seniority list quickly there is no means for the company to whipsaw with. BB is currently wanting scope removed from F9. If that happens he could say "take a cut on the bus or we put 190s on it" which we all know is a bad deal. With you guys on the RAH seniority that can't happen. That in itself is proof enough. One way or another the seniority list must be merged per the contact it would be beneficial to both groups for it to happen before he uses each one as weapons against the other in my opinion. I don't feel any F9 guy owes us anything. Of course that goes both ways.
First off.. just to to clear I'm not an F9 pilot. I'm a pilot concerned with the direction of this industry and I'm considerably concerned to be honest.

There is plenty help the Teamsters/RAH pilots can give us all... it is a matter of RAH pilots acknowledging this...

It seems there is a dedicated group of skilled unionized individuals who happen to work for a VERY sucessful management group. This SAME management group appears to undervalue your worth. Your pilot group is in NEGOTIATIONS. Do not sell yourself short.

It's not up to the F9 group to join the list... And if they happen to choose to relieve scope and effectively surrender their rights, that is their collective right. I guarantee they'll have exercised every alternative possible prior to doing so.

But recognize this: under no circumstance will I accept a pilot's answer, "It's not my fault". It is up to each pilot group to step up to the plate, regardless of union.

I fought and continue to fight...
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