Originally Posted by
superduck
Didn't Obama promise ever piece of legislation would be on the internet for 5 days before being voted on so the people could see what was at stake?
All politicos lie, we know it, they know it and they know we know it. Now please try to talk about the bill and not the players. Take the you and I out of the debrief. Rise above the petty aspect of personality and agenda and debate the bill itself. Point out the lie or error in logic and kill the proponent with that most uncommon of virtues: common sense.