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Old 07-05-2009 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Wow... is it any wonder why the airline pilot profession in the US has died? Look at this thread... we're so obsessed about date-of-hire and damn everything else.

And frankwasright says:



Not necessarily entitled, but if you can negotiate it, and command it... and then put your money where your mouth is... more power to you.

At my company, you'd also be a fellow coworker and you'd be paid based on which type of airplane you're flying. If you can negotiate higher pay than me... all the better for me - it gives me ammo to have a better shot at getting a raise.

How about taking into equation what THE BOSS or the CLIENTS or the CUSTOMERS want?

Why should we care about something like THAT?!?!? It's all about me....
Your dislike for unions is noted. At most flying jobs, without the ills of the unions, safety would be nearly non existent. Pressure to fly questionable airplanes would be heavy. Seen it, been there. (corporate size/non union commuter/union commuter/cargo). In the military, we didn't need a union, but despite money shortfalls, we did believe in safety and were a non profit so we didn't have to 'go'.
Glad your small outfit works for you and money and safety is of no concern. My company it is a challenge every day. Union crews climb in with non union crews who succumb to most every pressure when their career is on the line. Union keeps my job so I can take care of the customers and deliver their stuff like they really want.
I see a union as much to protect me from a person who would fly unsafe airplanes and become a management pet and thus a Capt, etc ahead of the safety minded pilot. Been there too. All this doesn't mean I don't understand the business end and limitations of unions. However, the OP should simply ask his wife, "Does my safety and job stabilty matter to you?" If she answers yes, then at his current company, a union is probably the better answer. At yours, not so much. BTW, what if the other pilot is your last post was willing to work for half of your current price? Leverage it is, and not for you.
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