Originally Posted by
onetime
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The problem with these 8n24 pairings is that they are just as safe as any other day layover we have in our system. They are disputed because we can't "turn into or out of" them or the 16ish rest is on our own time. Under that criteria, there could be a number of higher profile pairings that fall into that category as well. I enjoy 24HR+ SEA, OAK, SFO, SJC layovers just as much as anyone, but like the company we kind of want it both ways on this one.
If the higher profile flights you are talking about are the STN,KIX,FRA,CDG,CGN/MEM flights, you are mixing apples and oranges. Those flights consist of one leg that exceeds 8 hours of block. The west coast flights are two different duty periods which combine to go over 8 in 24. Unless you have figured out how to bend space, KIX/MEM is never going to be under 8 hours block. Again, the west coast flights are fixable, the others are not. It's sad to see a pilot side with the company on this one.