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Old 07-13-2009, 08:48 AM
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Stagger Lee
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Had to jump in here even though I always meant to just check out the site on occasion. It is more then a little disingenuous to rail against 'senior' pilots not being concerned with the scope issue. The term senior is extremely relative, as the guys you are calling senior are in fact mid-level pilots escalated by default, as the truly senior pilots ran away with their retirement payouts. Then the newbies became mid-level pilots and a bunch of guys off the street became the newbies. IE, everyone on the list is in a position they would not otherwise have seen for many years.

The point of the above is that those 'senior' pilots you rail against were here for the first layoffs in 91 and watched as scope took more and more of our flying through the 90's. We were the newbies who had our careers derailed by scope changes voted in by the true senior pilots. We also endured the B-scale, vacation sellback, etc, etc, none of which helped our careers. At the same time we endured the bragging about the final averages of $550,000 and $60,000 for a month's pay. We are fully aware of the damage done to the junior by the senior!

In fact we are still paying the price as deadzoners. Never see much concern with the fact the deadzoners are hosed as far as retirement is concerned. Pension gone, payout taxed as ordinary income, market falls by half, as does paycheck needed to try and build a new retirement in place of the stolen one, with very few years left to go in many cases. Many of us will be working long after we stop flying for DAL because of this hose job. Is it the fault of the junior pilots? No, of course not and neither is the present scope situation the fault of the guys you are calling 'senior.' If you have not heard much from us about it, give us the benefit of the doubt. In most cases guys are in a quiet state of panic doing math and realizing just how *******ed they are financially. But that does not mean we are going to do to you what was done to us. As far as I can tell, guys at my level are just as concerned about scope as you are, even if it isn't topic number 1 24/7. Just try to remember that scope is not the only disaster facing some of us. Many will be bagging groceries long after we stop carrying the stupid hat! For that we can thank DAL and the truly senior guys that went before us.
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