[quote=Precontact;648595] Like it or not, they're all senior to you. quote]

Only because UPS says so. The former IPA guys gave up their seniority number when they went to management. What would happen if I quit in disgust today, go work for someone else for a few years, then changed my mind and somehow managed to get myself hired back (yeah far-fetched that UPS would rehire, but indulge me for the sake of argument)? Would UPS/IPA give me my original date of hire or the new one? I would guess those former IPAers will be the sticking point to making this pass. And I really don't see many of them taking downgrades, even for the work rules.