Originally Posted by
fly2002
Had a Compass captain jumpseat with me this past week. Those 175's ARE certified...he said they have the placards installed. FWIW....
adding to this... E175's are Certified as follows:
Type Certificate Data Sheet
Model ERJ 170-200 LR (Transport Category Airplane) approved February 20, 2004
Maximum Weights Max Ramp Weight: 83,026 lb (37,660 kg)
Max Takeoff Weight: 82,673 lb (37,500 kg)
Max Landing Weight: 74,957 lb (34,000 kg)
Max Zero Fuel Weight: 69,886 lb (31,700 kg)
Maximum Weights** Max Ramp Weight: 89,353 lb (40,530 kg)**
Max Takeoff Weight: 89,001 lb (40,370 kg)**
Max Landing Weight: 75,178 lb (34,100 kg)**
Max Zero Fuel Weight: 72,091 lb (32,700 kg)**
** post-mod SB 170-00-0016.
Then the FAA lets the Manufacturer "re-certify" the weights lower at the operator's request under a Service Bulletin to side step labor agreements. But as far as the FAA is concerned, the airplanes are Certified to the higher weights, the restrictions to violate the spirit and intent of our contract is a "marketing" issue, not an airworthiness issue.
FWIW, the FAA's Certification Manager shares my opinion of ALPA scope. What surprises me is that you hear almost the same exact words from Experts in a variety of places who never had any opportunity to speak to one another.