Originally Posted by
goaround2000
Depending on what type of program they have (AQP, conventional, or a hybrid), there will need to be slight changes to encompass the ATP, that being said, you can have a scenario where they give you just the ATP, and not the type 'til you upgrade.
Agreed. I didn't say it could NOT be done, I just said that as their are currently authorized, I don't think they can do an ATP ride by itself....
The flip side of this is, by the time they resume hiring, these newer FO's will be on third year pay, and at the very least second year pay... AMR has shown that they would rather keep a flow of new pilots on first year pay than anything else... I would not be surprised at all to watch AMR tell pilots, especially 8 year FO's with only commercial tickets, to obtain the ATP or we will be forced to let you go and replace you with a new hire.... and there will be no shortage of ATP furloughed pilots on the streets that will take ANY job they can get. It will let AMR replace what they consider "higher cost" employees with new hires who already have ATP's...
Stop thinking AMR will ever do the right thing (such as voluntarrily spending money/time that they don't think they HAVE to spend), they will always do whatever they "think" will save them money.
Originally Posted by
goaround2000
The main concern should be with the guys that are under 23, for which I think the only logical scenario is a frozen ATP.
Interesting. I agree, this will be a sticking point