Yea, the FO rates should be a little higher but I was just tossing some numbers up for discussion. Longevity payscales are hurting us all. If people didnt have to start at 1st yr pay when they went to a new airline it would be much easier on the wallet to change airlines. This would force the carriers to create a good working environment in order to retain pilots. Wouldnt it be nice to have the ability to switch airlines if your company closed your hometown base?