Originally Posted by
Milk Man
But I work at a company where yeah its extremely possible because being a captain is a joke here, and well its been proven.
With that, can it can be concluded that SO IS BEING AN FO where you work?
Originally Posted by
MikeB525
You mean like if the KLM FO had taken the controls from Captain Van Zanten....?

Originally Posted by
DYNASTY HVY
Different time and a totally different mind set compared to now ,but then again I wonder .
Fred
True, had that been today, it wouldn't even have come down to the FO/FE intervening. Paraphrasing, but the comment of "did he not clear yet, the Pan American?" would have been enough for most, again, most CA's to think about it.
As you said though, again, we wonder. Reference the PVD incident. Not only from the the crew that refused to do anything till UAL was clear, but also the UAL plane.