Originally Posted by
Tuck
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the 8 in 24 problems were rather recent - we don't have a history of them here at Fedex. Company just started doing it in the last few months and supposedly they are all fixed in the Sep bidpacks (there were still a few in August but most were fixed). They really don't work for line building except under 4a2b where you don't have as much concern about min days off. If there's a history of 8 in 24 flights then please elaborate.
In addition, flag ops block limits 121.481
FAR Part § 121.481: Flight time limitations: One or two pilot crews -- FAA FARS, 14 CFR have very similar rest requirements for pilots that exceed 8 in 24 - it is clearly allowed.
The comments on the manning changes to Flag Ops didn't come from me - they came from JG and the rest of the NC at an LEC meeting and they sounded like they had done their homework.
Lots of 8 in 24 problems in the past. They just weren't as obvious as they were with the MEM to West coast and back trips. And, they were not planned to exceed 8 in 24. The BUS has had problems in the past with many pairings that transited the OAK hub. Like MSP-OAK-MSP, was always bumping 8 in 24.
They have also built pairings that planned on exceeding 8 in 24. However, they were built with the required rest period on a layover, not on your own time. So, there was not quite the uproar over it. You'd have to look at the longer pairings through OAK and LAX from, or to, the Midwest/East coast.