Originally Posted by
Brad4est
Well, if by recent you mean in the last 13 years or so then yes. We've been doing this for a long time. "Safe Skies" Fall 2007 has an article discussing 8 in 24 that outlines how the Company can legally schedule you to exceed 8 hours in a 24 hour period.
"121.505 Flight time limitations: Two pilot crews: airplanes.
(a) If a certificate holder conduction supplemental operations schedules a pilot to fly more than eight hours during any 24 consecutive hours, it shall gime him an intervening rest period at or before the end of eight scheduled hours of flight duty. .... (Edited for brevity)
As can be see, subpart (a) allows the company to schedule a pilot for mare than eight hours with a rest period of a certain minimum duration in the mix. This commonly referred to as 'doubling out'." From Safe Skies Fall 2007
We've been doing this for a long time. Anytime you went on a West Coast trip with less than 24 hrs layover this was probably a factor. Any 3 leg trips to a hub turn? Definitely a factor. As long as you had at least 8 hours off before going over 8, you were legal, under supplemental rules only. Look at any MD or Bus schedule, you'll find numerous examples. We're just used to them.
Then it wasn't a problem - if you got your 24 hours rest while on the company's dime during a layover then no one really cared - the recent problem is that the pairings are built with the 24 hrs to be on time off.
Like I said - show me the pairings from say a year ago that have a scheduled 8 in 24 with the rest on your time - I don't believe they exist.
Furthermore, as mentioned and referenced from what I can tell the rules don't really change for supplemental to flag - flag can also go over 8 in 24 they just need similar (same? I don't remember) rest requirements following it.