Originally Posted by
shiznit
There has been really great things done by the MEC and I completely agree with the "facts" in your post.....
I'd like to have you explain the "tone and context" of Moak's comments so that we can get this thread moving in the right direction again.
I continue to support the MEC and its Chairman in the upcoming battles but we do not have a clear picture from our reps of what our strategy is going to be going forward (mostly WRT scope considerations, though honestly I have been very pleased with the codifying in our sec. 1 of the new JV and the little pieces that have added up to 40 months of furlough protection.)
All some of these guys want is recognition that recapture of scope is being addressed, or is being studied, or at least acknowledged that it is an issue that should be looked into. So far all the DAL pilots have heard is crickets.
80ktsClamp, shouldn't your name now be "80ktsThrustNormal"!!!!
I agree with you.....and Slow, you did apologize once for "how" you commented, but yet we never heard an answer to the things I asked about. (see above)
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Originally Posted by
slowplay 
Sure I can. Just like Tanksley, et. al. Anybody can sue. To win you generally have to have a case.
The tempest in a teapot brewing over there is over the perceived change in rolling of the cards for the APA process. A bunch of folks think that it is somehow related to the Anchorage base closure. It isn't. It's about PRIP.
As far as filling of vacancies, how many vacancies does a 15% systemwide reduction in block hours create? How many vacancies does a base closure create? How many vacancies does parking the entire fleet of 747-200's create? How many vacancies does parking 4 of 16 747-400 create?
Easy answer. Each creates displacements. No advancements. Those guys "held out" don't have vacancies to bid into. The results using the APA process would have been the same with or without MOU-7. The results of the PRIP would have been far different. Only 2 of 26 747-400 Captains that took the PRIP are leaving before December. Absent MOU-7 and their ability to hit their milestones, how many of the remaining 24 would have opted to stay?
The MEC directed that each pre-merger group benefit from its own PRIPS. It directed that each pilot be allowed to hit milestones. That's what MOU-7 does.
Some crisis. The misrepresentation to heat this teapot is ridiculous.
Well thought out and logical explaination...
however laced with your typical condescending tone and contempt of people that question the way things are done.
...And you wonder why people so veraciously question what is done by the union...
Seriously, stop being so defensive about the MEC they have done very well in some areas but have been below standard in others, we all know that some people will never be satisfied no matter how much progress is made.
We do deserve to have
timely, accurate, and
unbiased information with which to try and make decisions, so do us a favor and tell the guy in charge to start getting good information to us quickly and without the "we know all the answers but can't tell you" pump turned on full blast.
**disclaimer, I have had tequila shots tonight.....