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Old 08-23-2009 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mooney
for some of us it is concessionary. I'm a 8-9 year CA. I will be making LESS at the new payrate than I would have had my COLA 50 cent or whatever raise for the past 5 years continued to be paid per the old contract. A 2-3 dollar pay raise over 1999 rates does not sit well with me (does not keep up with inflation/cost of living so therefore concessionary)...had the TA been passed 3-4 years ago that might be a different story.

I am losing VAC days

I have NO GAIN to my 401k.

so depending on where you are seniority wise, yes it is concessionary. especially for the middle group...below the top 15% to about the top of the bottom 30%
If you really do the numbers, it is concessionary to everyone.

The "new" payrates are basically COLA (3%) for the last 5 years (no DOS increase). For the mid pack pilots, there is 2-4 bucks/hour for the 5 year wait. Those 12 years or better back in '04 are now screwed. They cap at 18 years and if they would received JUST the COLA (3%) for the last 5 years they would be making more.

Depending on the "retro" check, it may not cover the DOS pay loss for the last 5 years except for the wh*res that did better than 1000 hours credit (based on a W2 model).

The combined COLA and DOS was about 6% annually, you are getting 3% and a couple of bucks looking forward. There is NO pay increase to speak of, it is not like the compensation picked up like the last 5 years didn't happen. The compensation for a 8 yr CA (with COLA and DOS) should be 76.00+. The new rates are $72. It is actually worse for the top 5% of the sen list, they are really getting hosed if they are still on the -200.

Do not vote on money alone, look at the whole package. If it is shot down by the pilots, you need to be specific of what needs to be improved and you should not JUST say $$$
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