FWIW.... after all the years you have been in negotiations.... if the pilots vote this down... my personal belief is that the union should go to the NMB and have things declared an enpass.... with a 30 day cooling off period ... followed by a strike if no progress is made. A strike is the ONLY thing at this point that will get you something even close to what you should be looking to get. Five years is tooo long...if they were willing to pay more without the possibility of a strike they would have. Push for "self help" if this TA fails... and if it passes... you have no one to point the finger at but yourselves... good luck.