lying would not be out of the question for 9E management group also stupidity and greedy will discribe them quite well. CFO hay Phill we have a lot of money sitting around should we settle the contract and pay the pilots Phill No we will come up with something to tell them a drag on the negoitions CFO oh ok well we can invest the money Phill in what CFO Auction Rate securities and increase our bounus for the year Phil ok it is only the pilots money we have nothing to lose