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Old 09-08-2009 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Killer51883
because my company wasn’t flying around 120 seat airplanes with 100 seats in them trying to compete with every other carrier that flies into the metropolises of MKE and MCI while hoping that some fattening cookie would make their profit margins jump. Or maybe because I am trying to live my life and its more valuable than what ever problems you have right now.

not to be crude but just because your older and have been flying longer doesnt mean that the entire RAH pilot list should roll over and give you our jobs and seniority. We are all out here just trying to survive just like every other pilot out there. Now your group has been imunne to this type of thing for the most part but welcome to the world of every other legacy carrier. They have all lost flying to regionals/contract carriers in the past 15 years or so. I am not saying its right or that I agree with it but frankly its the way it is. I would love to have a job at any legacy but they arent even that good anymore. Everyone has the same crappy schedules, bullsh!t work rules, and don't get paid what they are worth. I think its time you midwest guys suck it up and realize that this whole industry sucks and complaining about it on an internet website is not going to help. If it would I can bet those 1500-2000 american pilots who havent worked this DECADE would have figured it out that complaining and argueing with fellow pilots would some how change managments minds and they would be graciously given their jobs back.
To use your argument what of this did the midwest pilots control? You say that you shouldn't be treated as the enablers you are because your management did it and not you. So if you shouldn't pay the price for what your management has done neither should the midwest guys right? So then to be fair I guess ALPA won't bring up that you took the midwest jobs and the teamsters won't bring up the condition of the company and seniority list.

Am west/us air is not even comparable. This merger and it is a merger is between 2 companies in different position in a normal pilots career progression. It just happens to be that the company at the lower position in career progression is taken over two other airlines who are at a higher position in career progression. Secondly Am west/us air was a merger to increase economies of scale. Both had marketing, sales, ticketing, etc. Republic needed frontier and midwest to provide these things. As this continues it will become more and more clear just how much midwest and frontier are bringing to the table. For instance a real training department. Not the joke you have now.