"Maybe competence could be measured by how quickly you are able to upgrade to Captian? Isn't that what companies are hiring, future Captains?"

Game, set and match!!! Nicely done pinseeker. You just nailed a hole in one. My personal preference is to ignore those that ignore their obligations yet reap the rewards of others dues money and hard work. Freeloaders have no say so their opinion is worth what they pay. Nada, zippy, zero, zilch. Why a dude that can't upgrade to the left seat wants to pull gear past Age 60 is beyond me. Anyway, just let him and his non member buddies cry in the beer our contract bonus will buy for them. But, if you can't ignore them, at least point out what they are really all about and you did that nicely.

Tony C, don't give NMB (NonMemberBob) the time of day until he pays his way! You owe him exactly what he gives us...nothing!