Agreed. But here's the $64,000 question come 2012. Do we try to get 80% of what we think is "fair", realizing it will take 3+ years of extended contract negotiations to get that. Or do we settle for 70% and wrap it up in a year, but be labeled as caving again?

And before anybody says I'm caving to accept 70-80%, realize that 70% to us is 100% to the company, and 80% is 110%. We will never agree on what's "fair". We will point to C2K plus inflation; the company will point to industry standard. My bet is we'll end up at the top of the industry, but below C2K + inflation.