Originally Posted by sailingfun

Ok, here is math simplified just a bit. C2k 757/767 rate was around 265 at its peak. We took a 32 percent pay cut. New rate 180 an hour. Then a 14 percent cut. New rate 155 an hour.
Your demand is for 345 an hour. C2k plus 30%. Current 767/767 rate after several raises is 168 an hour. Double that is 336 dollars an hour.
As you mentioned I don't know how they do math in TN but the hunting dogs must be really poor. This dog hunts and hunts hard.

As far as how long we wait for a impasse we can't just have one declared. We have to petition the NMB to declare the impasse. Historically contracts have run 2 years over the amendable date at Delta. Many contracts have gone as long as 6 years over. Take a look at ASA as a example. The NMB will not release us to strike if they feel our position is unreasonable. Asking for C2K plus 30% would be viewed as exactly that. We will be put on ice just like the American pilots have been. 2017 might be conservative!

Your contract ideas are not unusual and our held by many pilots. In the end however they wont put the most money in your pocket and get you the best quality of life. I would hope our opener would be well thought out and provide meanful gains in both pay and work rules while sticking with the economic realities in the industry. If it is we can perhaps get a contract a within a year of the amendable date. If we go the just so no route with a radical opener from a radical MEC then you can kiss a contract goodbye for a long long time and in the end we will end up with basically the same final product just years delayed.