gtech - Calm down man, I know it feels, I was part of the 80. It sucks but the truth is that their is NOTHING you and I can do about it. Tell you the truth many of us didn't use out pass benefits much/at all after we got furloughed. What's the point in going places when you cannot afford it with no job. There was a e-mail sent out when I got furloughed and when you got furloughed saying that if you need to fly for an interview call them and they can see about hooking you up with a seat. Our fate is entirely on ALPA our pilot group and how they work with management. I am sure it is anger and frustration that causing you to blow your lid here and I do agree that there are a few at ASA that has been with them since they had a 121 job. Therefor they do not know what life under furlough is like. But remember there are MANY here at ASA that came from other airlines that was much worst with the furlough gun. They understand very well the situation we are in. Also what's the point of staying with an airline if it is bleeding money and cannot grow? PBS is something that we have to do sooner or later, otherwise everyone is going out underbid us. We just need to hope that our MECs are taking carefull steps so that PBS doesn't skrew us. Some say that's impossible others say it is. PBS can HELP ensure ASA future by lowering our costs. I dunno about you but one reason I came to ASA was because they paid well. This means higher costs for ASA at the same token, even more reason why PBS can save us. SKYW, RJET both pay well also and they use PBS. Our QOL maybe on line but crappy pay and lots of time off aint much of a QOL also. Let's just wait and see the details on PBS and as far as pass travel just contact the chief pilot or go on the ASA ALPA board. There are a few pilots on there that are donating their buddy passes also. You are senior to me buddy, hope to see you in the class ahead of me when we are recalled.