Originally Posted by
gtechpilot
My thought this spring was that PBS would not make sense for ASA unless they furloughed. I'm not sure if PBS saves 10-15% of active pilots or all pilots though. If you look at just active pilots and 10% the 136 on the street make a perfect fit. Regardless, unless we find true growth (not just finding flying for the 20 200s) I think our recall will be longer because of PBS.
If they try to furlough after PBS, the legal battle might be too costly. I'm skeptical that this will help us win new flying - it likely won't be voted on before UAL's Oct RFP and it may not be implemented by next spring if it does pass. Regardless, if the bullet-point highlights put out by the union are solid, I'm starting to lean toward favoring it. Guess we'll see!
see that is what bothers me still. I am leaning toward PBS but in the ASA Connect e-mail it talked about the no furlough clause will still be intact for all pilots on property. The wording of that BOTHERS me because are we considered on property? Totally mess up if they furloughed 136 of us to get us "off property" so we are left out of the no furlough clause. I remember back in Feb, right before we got the ax, ALPA MEC told me that part of their PBS deal is to ADD all the pilots, even furloughed guys, onto the no furlough clause. It would also be nice if ALPA forces ASAs hands on a no later than this date recall for us to ensure PBS doesn't sideline us for YEARS. (plural) Obviously I don't mean for ALPA to force ASA to recall us anytime soon, more like this time next year. That gives ASA 1.5yrs worth of attrition since the 1st group was canned. And it would be reasonable to add that it can only be enforced if ASA has at least an X amount of block hrs of flying. If next summers flying comes even a ear shot of this summers flying... I will be ****ED if there is no recall. It was bad enough for the 80 of us watched as you guys got jr manned and over stretched to pull off this summers flying.