Originally Posted by Sink r8

I disagree. I've watched the animation on youtbe that shows aircraft controls and a graphic of the aircraft attitude, along with the transcript from the CVR, and this thing doesn't have thing one to do with the F/O's commuting, or the distance of that commute, or even fatigue.

It appears it has to do with general incompetence, horrible flying skills, fraudulent and criminal behavior in disguising the aforementioned skills and incompetence on the part of the captain, and a poor technical job by the F/O, combined with poor judgment in not calling in sick when she wasn't fit for duty.

The crew did absolutely everything imagineable to create the upset, and the captain did everything wrong, to positively lose control of this thing, and undo the good work of generations of engineers, and decades of improvement in aviation safety. The F/O only sealed the deal by bringing the flaps up.

This commuting and fatigue stuff is tangential nonsense. At least that is the picture I get when putting together the few facts in my possession.