Originally Posted by
flynavyj
That's correct on the times dojet, all across the board.
Calcapt, I actually do agree with what you've said. Often times, people will make excuses well before they step up to the plate to play ball, why? Because it's easier. I see no reason why a person doesn't graduate highschool in these days if they have no "extremely difficult circumstances" (to much put on them by parents aka....you watch brothers and sisters from the time you get home from school to the time you go to bed, make dinner, etc) not everyone's lot in life is as easy as the next guys, nor as hard, all relative. My girlfriend is in her first year of teaching and has noticed that about some of her students, they come from poor families (no excuse for not trying) but some students are not being given the time to do their homework, instead are required to do their parents housework. If a person was in that situation, the end result is that they're probably not going to be prepared for college, and even if they did get accepted to one, they wouldn't have the background to succeed...tough luck. Does that have anything to do w/ affirmative action? Nope.
So, should a person be admitted to college just to meet a quota? Nope, should a person get a job for the same reason? No again. Honestly, in the aviation workplace i don't believe that you see affirmative action all that much, honestly, you don't see it that much in many workplaces anymore. It's not as much "hire this many of this group, this many of this group" like it was in the past, and i believe that on average people get a fair shot at getting a job as long as their qualified.
I do know that my resume' doesn't say "minority-hire me" anywhere on it, and my name is as american as the next guy...so, if anyone on here's resume' is the same way, and you were still called for the interview, i highly doubt that affirmative action got you the position...they were already prepared to hire you.
Fly,
How long have you been out of the Navy and searching for a civilian job? Only recently would be my guess. When I was at the commuters in the late 90's I saw countless females and minorities get hired during that wave of hiring with well below averages of experience. All the while white males that had 1000's of hours turbine pic, IOE intructor positions, and multiple type ratings not even get a call to interview (with no skeletons, I might add). You may not see so many of these underqualified people that I describe at a given airline nowadays because of the massive furloughs that followed but it happened. I saw it happen MANY times. I predict more of the same when the next wave of hiring hits. Affirmative Action is unfortunately alive and well in the aviation community.