Originally Posted by
Foxy
-Fox
*- Obviously, who is "legally" PIC needs to be agreed upon beforehand, and has oodles of considerations- Insurance, legal liability, responsibility.. and in the event of an accident, violation or incident, the FAA may decide that the person asleep in the back seat was the real PIC, so all bets are off. But as far as logging time, it's pretty straightforward: If you agreed before the flight that you were responsible for its safe outcome, then you may log PIC. If you did not, then you should (And are authorized to by the regulations above to) log SIC.
Good post Fox and you make it seem very clear - thanks.
Question though - - I'm use to signing for an airplane. The person who signs for the airplane is the AC Commander (mil PIC in this case) That person is the one who is responsible for the safe outcome of the flight as you say in the above bolded.
Back when I was flying GA - I thought I remembered signing for the aircraft too from the flight school. Is this not common? Did I remember wrong? How is this handled in your experience now? In this case - the private pilot who signed for the C-152 would fit the bill as you describe above. So if the safety pilot wanted to log that time as PIC then he would need to be the one to sign the plane out. Correct?
I did talk to some corporate pilots a while back and asked them the question about *signing* for the aircraft and they looked at me like I had sprouted horns.
It certainly wasn't the black and white that i am accustom too right now!
USMCFLYR