Originally Posted by alfaromeo

I guess you think making insults gives you a better argument. It doesn't, it just makes you look childish. What you want is for the reps to represent the will of the council. That means the whole council. People that show up at LEC meetings are PART of that council. In the case of this resolution, it was obvious that a concerted effort was made to pack the meeting with people who had a strong feeling about the matter. Just because you packed the meeting and passed a resolution it does not mean that it represents the will of the council. Now you want to start a hissy fit because you didn't get your way. Boo hoo.

So, do you want the elected reps to represent the entire will of the council, or just the people that organize to pack one LEC meeting? I am sure that the reps considered that resolution as representing those pilots views, but it is arrogant to think that you can organize a small group and have that push around the entire council.

You talk about this big change in the union. As far as I can tell, in Council 44, there is only one guy running for reelection. I think that means there will be turnover no matter what. I don't know about council 20. Being a rep is hard work and I am sure that many of the current reps are ready to go back to line flying.

I have seen this many times before. You get a small group on web boards or organized to pack a meeting and they now think they own the whole union. Good luck with that. Maybe you think tossing around insults gets you better results. Good luck with that. A good rep will sound out the entire council and not just listen to those voices that are the loudest and most insulting.

My advice to you is to grow up. You don't convince anyone with your insults and you make yourself look like a fool. If you want to effect change then do some work. Yelling insults on the web board is a waste of time.