Originally Posted by
KC10 FATboy
Why would I want to have report times of 2am? That's what you're going to end up with. The traffic in NYC is unpredictable because at night they close lanes, bridges and tunnels for work. My two longest commutes were trying to get home from LGA after midnight. It took me over 4 hours twice. That was 2.5 hours trying to escape NYC.
If they have transport provided, do I lose my employee parking spot at EWR? Do I get reimbursed for parking at the second airport? Something tells me, no. How do I know this? DAL is already removing parking passes from those of us who fly out of EWR. "It is too expensive for us to provide parking passed now to EWR. You must use long term parking". If they are already doing that, they aren't going to pay for me to park when there's a bus provided.
Again, WHY are we proposing going through all this mess for something that is so trivial? The FAs already have it figured out. Why are we trying to reinvent the wheel?
Just because a majority of the people who are based in NYC don't live there, doesn' mean that we impose rules that would screw the people who moved or lived in base and played by the rules.
I get your angst, I do, but this airline actually has more commuters than people that live in base. I live in base by choice too. It is not where I want to live, but I was not going to play the commuting game. My choice, just like it is someones choice to commute. If my kiddos were older or the wife would have said bs, I would be a commuter too.
Point is that there are going to be more commuters than there are now, and we are way behind the curve on this. DAL is adding flying to the NYC hub. There are going to be pilots getting kicked up there , that do not want to be there. I know you do not care, I get that. Move or deal.
I totally disagree. A better commuter clause that is part of the PWA, a realistic arrangement for intra base transport, (Negative is the guys that commute that have NYC overnights will lose the hotel rooms and or those types of trips), parking et al for anyone who wants it. The FA's do not necessarily like the van service, but it is better than nothing. I can also tell you that on 40% of my overnights that arrive after 2230 we are dropping a FA off at the Krew. Why? Because the bus does not run, or it will be four or five hrs. It is a half baked attempt.
What you are proposing would work, if DAL had a moving policy that did more than move the junk. If they paid for the house, and or provided hub housing until the house was sold, I could see the status quo being enough.
I have flown with so many commuters that hate the commute, but they really have not choice for whatever reason. You are lucky, but many have obligations that make commuting a necessity and not a choice. It is not a choice like many think.