Originally Posted by captjns

Can't blame me for your inferiority(ies)... and not fair take liberties with your colleagues either... don't you agree?




In response to your queery... below is an excerpt from our FCOM. During engine inoperative approaches, the raw additive to Vref is Flaps 15 ref + 5 knots. The "ICE" additive is for increased performance when additional bleed requirements are needed during engine inoperative approaches.

As per our Boeing 737-800 Flight Crew Operations Manual:

Use normal procedures and reference speeds unless a flaps 15 landing is planned.
If a flaps 15 landing will be made:

Set VREF 15

If any of the following conditions apply, set VREF ICE = VREF 15 + 10:
• engine anti–ice will be used during landing
• wing anti–ice has been used any time during the flight
• icing conditions were encountered during the flight and the landing temperature is below 10°C.

Any other -800 have the same VREF ICE additives in their manuals?