Originally Posted by
Twin Wasp
Just for you guys, starting Oct 20th. The new 61.51:
"A sport, recreational, private, commercial, or airline transport pilot may log pilot in command flight time for flights-
(iv) When the pilot performs the duties of pilot in command while under the supervision of a qualified pilot in command provided—
(D) The supervising pilot in command logs the pilot in command training in the pilot's logbook, certifies the pilot in command training in the pilot's logbook and attests to that certification with his or her signature, and flight instructor certificate number."
So you
do have to have the 'real' PIC sign your log book (starting 10/20/09). As I've said before, I don't know a single Captain who would sign off on an FO's logbook for this.
I'm increasing believing that my citation from 1992, while perhaps valid @ the time (FO can log time as PIC for the purposes of the 250 PIC requirement of the ATP, even though the FO is not qualified to be PIC) is no longer valid, having been superseded @ some point, if not in the past, then certainly on 20 Oct. 2009.
Good find, 'Twin Wasp'.