Originally Posted by
detpilot
Ok guys, so I had an embarrassing first departure from Teterboro. We were leaving IFR, and runway 19 was in use. Clearance del. was asking everyone if they could accept some departure procedure (forget the name) that was not published in the FAA terminal procedures book. It seemed like everyone knew what it was (they were all accepting it), but we could not find it. The clearance delivery controller was pretty short with us, and suggested going into the FBO to get it (Not an option at this point because we already had the engine running). He also said we should look in the AFD, which made no mention of the procedure. We ended up giving up and departing VFR, quite upset at the lack of documentation of this procedure, as well as the controller's unwillingness to fill us in. As a professional pilot, how should I have known about this procedure, and where can I find info on it. I still can't find anything on it now that I'm home, and it's bugging me. And furthermore, how do I know that these kinds of unpublished procedures exist if it's not in the AFD or the Instrument approach book? It wasn't the Ruddy 2 or the Teterboro 6 departure. Thanks!
I'ts in the special notices section. Since they deal with "the big dogs" all day long, they expect youto be able to keep up. Remember 91.103.
Not saying you couldn't, just an observation.
I had the same thing happen to me this year not too long after the fatal crash in the Hudson. Luckly for me, I found the DP in the AFD. I had been in and out of there many times before, always IFR. So I was cought off guard when they told me to expect a delay for the TEB5(now 6) or follow the Dalton. The what?
But rather than launch into an unfamiluar DP, ask them to spell it out. Remember, You pay their salary. Tangling with a 75 on aproach to EWR (thats what the Dalton is for) would be much worse for your carrer.
You would think since they (faa) were saying the TEB controller played a roll in the hudson crash, they would be more forthcomming with info when they hear somone plead the 5th on the dalton
But ultimatly, if you want to run with the "big dogs" you have to be able to bark.
