Originally Posted by
Fritzthepilot
Simply put, this was a software issue for UAL management to solve.
True. But the problem was, they kept telling the UAX carriers that it was out of their hands, and that management didn't want to fix it. Went on for what, 2 years? The problem was, it WAS changed in the first part of 2008 to kick the priority up of TSA/GoJets pilot above other UAX carriers. So if the system glitch couldn't be changed, how where they able to put one carrier above others, but not able to sort out a particular carrier on that carriers equipment?
Originally Posted by
Fritzthepilot
and Express pilots thought they could hold a gun to the pilots of United. They set a date after which United pilots could not ride the RJ jumpseat unless the United Pilots intervened to solve the problems of the RJ pilots with UAL management. We have enough problems with UAL to fight their battles as well.
Not really, they simply stated that after 2 years, they are tired of UAL not willing to solve the problem. Read the LAST part of the letter again. It wants UAL pilots to contact their reps and let them know what's going on, because the UAX JS chairs are doing nothing but banging their head against the wall trying to get it fixed.
Originally Posted by
Fritzthepilot
They decided to threaten the use of the jumpseat as a means/weapon to get what they wanted. Which was amateurish and wrong.
See above.
Originally Posted by
Fritzthepilot
I can't make it much simpler than that. I frankly don't care what got their panties in a wad over the jumpseat.
So you don't care that pilot is not being given the JS on his OWN equipment?
Originally Posted by
Fritzthepilot
My problem is they were going to use the seat as a weapon thinking that collectively, their tails could wag the dog. If I could type braille for you I would, but by the amount of postings I see you have on this forumn, I don't think it would work.
Not really, they were simply tired of the problem that was going on, and wanted to bring it to the attention of the pilots. How long can you expect something like that to continue, with the JS chairs going through all the proper channels but to no avail? And what was the effect? Did it ever come down to the "war". NOPE, they FINALLY got it straightened out. Pretty sad what it took to get it straightened out, isn't it? But what do you expect when somebody is unwilling to change something? As far as the last part, is that MORE flame?
Originally Posted by
Fritzthepilot
Btw, you said, "As well as wondering why a UAL pilot was being processed ABOVE a UAX pilot on THAT UAX pilot's own company?" I was just wondering, who is in final control of the airplane jumpseat, the "C"aptain or the gate agent?
Yep, we all know the CA is, but the problem that was occurring that most people don't get was this; At locations where the plane is distant from the gate, and or the UAL/UAX gate agent is poorly trained, the UAX pilot was not even being given the OMC and able to walk down to see the CA, only the UAL pilot was. Now the UAX pilot is being denied the seat.