Originally Posted by
bernouli
ATC yells anyway.
I'm with the majority. I'd rather get yelled at for asking for a clearance rather than getting hate mail from the FAA. Same with taxi instructions.
I've never even gotten yelled at. Quite the opposite. Once were were doing practice approaches at KFTG (under/near/virtually on top of) the DEN Class B. Our radioed missed approach instructions would bring us up into the B airspace*. My "Confirm cleared into the Bravo" received the friendly reply, "Oh yeah. You need that don't you. Cleared into the Class Bravo."
* It didn't have to. If we did a normal climb to altitude we would enter the B. But we could have leveled off, remained below the B, and then about 1 mile or so later, continued the climb.
For those who believe that heading and altitude = clearance, willing to act on that that implication a mile or so from the Class B surface area?