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Old 11-05-2009 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by upndsky
Unfortunately, it's not that simple. Some of the guys who are in the queue ahead of you may not be legal for a trip that pops up.

Example: You're on for 3 days and there's another 3-day person ahead of you (because of seniority, RAW score, whatever). It's possible that person flew the day before. If a trip pops up and it falls within his domicile rest, the trip goes to you. Also, a person may be showing available that day, but he may be finishing a trip that morning. For all practical purposes, he can't be used that day even though he shows available.

This happened to me once. I got done with a 4-day trip which got back around 9 in the morning. I had one more day left and when I looked at the reserve availability list for the next day, I was at the bottom of the list with around 8 1-day guys ahead of me. The weather was good, no IROPs anywhere so I thought there was no way I was going to get used.

I commuted home and my butt wasn't parked on the couch for more than a minute when scheduling called with a trip early the next morning. When I asked the scheduler about all the guys ahead of me, I found none was legal for it. They were either already flying and were not getting in until late at night, which wouldn't give them enough rest, or they were looking at a 30/7 conflict. So I had to turn right around and commute back to Atlanta that evening.

Unfortunately, the reserve availability list doesn't show any of that. I don't put any stock in my position on the list. There are too many variables that will make a person ahead of you not legal for a trip. This is one big gripe I have about the system. It needs to be much clearer or transparent so you know where you really stand so you can plan better. I don't mind working, but I also don't want to have to hang around if I really don't have to.

I know this is from some time ago, but I wanted to respond to it.

As you look at the Reserve Availability List (RAL) for each day, you see a lot of pilot on there, so you think you are fine. As you state you can get hosed if you do not understand what this means. For example, I got done with a four day yesterday but I was still in yesterdays bucked. Why?
Well, I got done with enough time left in the calender day to get my required rest and go back on LC/SC prior to 2400. When that happens someone will show up on the RAL even though they are flying that day.
So, if you want to make certain of the availability of those in front of you, you would have to see when their last duty period is. It nails a lot of guys in the one and two day buckets. There are plenty of pilots that get in and show in these buckets that will be illegal for most trips. The reason they are there and remain after scheduling rationalizes these lists, is because they are avail for duty some time that day after the required rest period.

Hope that explanation helps.