Originally Posted by
AirWillie
Most likely but it was necessary for them You can't blame management they're already losing money on airplanes. Best of luck to Expressjet pilots and hopefully this can actually bring some of the furloughed back so there's movement out there. Still, Expressjet will be flying this at a loss which is not good for anyone except UA. There is no way they can underbid TSA, it's an impossibility. TSA has at least 20-30% cheaper operating costs. That is why UA signed them on after TSA said no and after AWAC refused to take pay cuts for the flying. Obviously nothing wrong with this, better use of idling airplanes and pilots but to say that Expressjet is a beacon of hope over all others is not very realistic considering the latest fad for regionals it pay to play for new flying.
As far as TSA, I never believed they would get this flying. This was WAY too big for TSA, the usual big time heavy event at TSA is when they're able to borrow 1 or 2 airplanes from another regional for the summer.
As usual you're managing to speculate on that which you do not know anything about. First, show me the terms of the agreement where it actually shows that we're doing this flying at a loss. Everything that has been released or communicated to us today indicate that the final details of the CPA are still pending. Second when comparing apples to apples the XJT and AWAC contract are pretty even. AWAC does have a few provisions that we don't have, but we're both above average by leaps and bounds particularly when you compare it to 70 seat operators that pay 50 seat wages, and/or have subpar contracts.
As I mentioned earlier today, the only losers here today are J.O., Hulas, Bedford and the likes.