No, I had to go to the orientation as well. They sent me to Pan Am in Pheonix. However the three weeks I went there were before April 28th. Your hire date is actually the date you enter training at Eagle. You probably don't have access to it, but we can log in and look at the seniority list that lists everyones' names and hire dates. In fact, there was even another class after I entered training, so the last class date, or date of hire if you will, was actually May 12 of 08. If you look at the letter you got from Eagle for the transition course, it explains how your hiring is conditional upon finishing the transition training. This is also why you aren't actually getting paid while going through the jet transition training. Hopefully we'll see you around though, It wasn't fun being stuck at the bottom for a whole year!!