Originally Posted by
SoCalGuy
That's about the tall-n-short of it Tin.
I have seen the B762 from time to time on the BCN run. When it happens, normally it's during the holidays, or cruise season w/ heavy cargo loads.
Depending on the time of the year, as stated earlier, your already stretching the plane's capability when it comes to fuel on the BCN-EWR run. You'd be amazed how fast your holding fuel goes 'bye-bye' when doing turns/holding over HELON Int (located about 1-2 miles West of Stewart on the arrival to EWR) at 7,000ft due to "TRAFFIC VOLUME" into NYC airspace.
After you burn through your add, conting, wrap-around & holding gas....Bingo Fuel is Bingo Fuel and sometimes it happens in the hold North of EWR....thus Hello Stewart
Good to hear you enjoyed your DUB flight, glad it was a good experience on CAL.
Yup I can see that. I can just see the dispatchers face though when he gets a message "Hey we're diverting to Stewart!" haha oh the pain! lol
And yes, that CAL flight was one of the best flights I've ever been on. The pilots were so nice to me, and the flight attendants were absolutely amazing. I was so impressed and thankful they treated me so well. I truly felt like I was one of you all. It was a GREAT experience.
Originally Posted by
aa73
We fill up our 763s quite a bit during the summer to BCN. Wintertime, not so much, hence the change to the 757.
Like SoCal says, the fuel #s look fine on paper when leaving westbound. Throw in a lower than requested altitude on the NATs, delaying vectors approaching NY, a hold or two, and you get the picture. 9 times out of 10 these flights are dispatched with a re-release, meaning that the flight is only released to a certain point, and upon arrival at that point, based on actual fuel the crew and dispatch determine whether they can get "re-released" to destination.
The 757 is truly not a trans-atlantic bird, end of story.
For a regional pilot, I know a good bit about TATL travel. I'm familiar with the redispatch point. I'm sort of a dork, I really enjoy reading up on as much as I can regarding international flying. I've even visited Shanwick Center once. It was fascinating.
The 757 seems like the perfect choice for Ireland and certain UK flights (excluding London and perhaps even MAN depending on the loads). Delta uses a 763 and a 764 on ATL-DUB, and the flights are usually NEVER full. Very rarely from my experiences, and I've done that flight more times than I can count. It wouldn't have surprised me if they put one of the ex-TWA ETOPS 757s on that route.