Although, might I add, the old mentality of: "I'm just going to milk this place for the PIC-turb, get out in a couple years, and not really care about getting abused", is definitely not as prominent as it was a couple of years ago, which is a good thing, in my opinion; not "good" in the sense that people are sticking around longer, but "good" in the sense that more people are focused on making neccesary changes. Changes need to be made, and I think that we now have the right people in the right positions, and the right union to help make those changes. Plus, we have a large number of people who have been at Lakes for a little longer than they originally intended, who are now interested in seeing life get better. I'm confident current negotiations will lead to a better life at Lakes, which has been long overdue.