Originally Posted by blastoff

You don't need an ATP for a PIC type. Many pilots at the Commercial level have PIC types...just need to be an ATP to use it in 121.

Originally Posted by dojetdriver

I don't know why so many pilots have a hard time understanding this concept. What do you got, 3 or 4 PIC type ratings before you evan had ATP mins?

Edited to add;

I could see CPZ doing it a while back for the purposes of when the upgrade was relatively quick, and YES, it's good to require a newhire to have an ATP, or ATP mins. Doesn't change the fact that a PIC type rating issuance ISN'T dependent on possessing an ATP, nor doing doing the ATP while on the type ride.