Originally Posted by
Winged Wheeler
Fair enough.
Your point about scientists bickering is essential. The CRU, and many other establishment climate research institutions, produce conclusions that support their theories. They refuse to provide (to the bickerers) the raw data or the processes that led to their conclusions. If the math and science are bulletproof, put it out there and we will buy it.
Your other point about the hacking (or inside job) is well made, but beside the point. Does the fact that this data was obtained illegally affect whether or not it is true?
WW
Perhaps I missed something, Is the data
really being withheld?
All reputable scientific papers and journals will be complete with all sources for their data. Follow the trail of sources and you should have your data. I'm not going to look for it, I have better things to do. If some joe smo asked me to provide all the data, I'd tell 'em to go pound sand, and follow the trail of references themselves.
Hacking the e-mail will not in itself make anything more or less true, but it was obvious in this case that the info was quote mined and taken out of context to "prove" an already held opinion. It also speaks volumes about the credibility of those that would steal the info or those that willingly use the stolen info without regard to the law.
An illegal search of my house for a murder weapon will guarantee that that murder weapon will be inadmissible in court.
Kinda went astray of the original question, ehh? To answer: I havn't changed my mind.