Mod note:

I'll try to keep the thread open with a reminder of the forum rules.

"Topics Not for Discussion

There are currently NO forums that provide a venue for discussing politics or religion."

When people start making posts with religious references, it invites a religious discussion, which is not in keeping with the rules at APC. It's a simple rule and one that has been enforced at this site in the past. Please just keep that in mind as you go forward.