Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
I was REALLY thinking hard about saying something, but since I'm the new guy here, I really don't know what's normal yet. I think you guys have cleared it up pretty well. Next time...retribution!
Carl
I seem to be one of only a couple suggesting this isn't necessarily an
automatic call, even if I agree with you the PA sounds pretty stupid. The part about reading a resume in public tells me this guy is a tool, but not that he's acting against the interests of the company. The computer joke tells me he is not as funny as he thinks he is, and that he is potentially embarassing you, me, and the company. Then again, he didn't say anything that wasn't factual, or anything that was rude.
Still, if it had been your judgment at the time to call Pro-Standards, or talk to this guy, that would be fine too. There is no harm in sorting out with Pro-Standards whether this is or isn't worth calling the guy in for a little counseling.
I just think you forfeit your right to go to Pro-Standards when you start the discussion in a public venue first. In effect, you've made your call already. That's the point I'd like to make to our twelve angry men on here: you were there, and you didn't call. The F/O was there, and it doesn't sound like he called. You didn't privately ask a friend whether you should make a call, and you didn't ask Pro-Standards whether this was an issue worth discussing with him. You didn't have a converation with the Captain. You came on APC, and asked for a review of the play, which is perfectly fine. So in effect we can discuss the play, and talk about wteher you should have thrown a flag, or about how to rule in future games, but I don't think we should change the score.
I guess the real difference of opinion between me and them is that they are telling you what to do as if dealing with a hypothetical case:
if this happens, you
ought to consider doing this. And I agree in that sense: they're giving good advice for a hypothetical case. But you didn't call Pro-Standards, and this isn't a hypothetical case. And therefore, my advice is that it would not be appropriate, right now, to bring this any further. If, in the future, you encounter another yahoo like this, and you keep it small, keep it private, and raise it to the attention of Pro-Standards, then I think you would be entirely correct. As you said: "next time..."