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Old 01-05-2010 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
I don't think so. They have the right to prevent cascading events by creating a a legitimate (i.e. correct) award where they control the total number of pilots that go into a category, or displace. Fine. That doesn't give them the right to avoid solving errors, just because the resolution of errors would cause a cascade. These are two vastly different concepts.
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Let's play with an example.

Four pilots, in seniority order, A,B,C,D. All are very senior F/O's. The bid only offers two positions: a WB Captain position, and a NB Captain position.
-A, B, D bid WB Captain first, then NB Captain.
-C bids the senior NB Captain position only.
-A & B put several restrictions, all of which are met in the awards.
-D puts no restrictions.

First scenario: the company decides to offer an extra seat in the WB category, because it would suit their purposes, for whatever reason, and not award the position in the NB category.
-A & B are WB Captains.
-C gets nothing.

The company manipulated the total number of people in both categories, but seniority is respected. End of story.

Second scenario: the Company doesn't deviate from the planned number, and awards what was posted: one WB Captain., one NB Captain. Except it makes a mistake: itfails to recognize that A & B's restrictions for WB Captain are met, and only awards D WB Captain, and C NB Captain.
-A complaints.
-B doesn't catch on, and fails to complaint.
-Company moves A to WB Captain category, keeps D there, and carries the overage of 1.

As you can see, failing to complaint means that B gets neither his first, nor his second choice. So, one type of manipulation (changing the total people in a category without discrimination) can affect pilots in general, but correcting errors selectively can affect individual pilots, out of seniority.

My argument: You can't solve A's problem, and ignore B.

Sink, I agree with the premise. I just stated that they are given a ton of latitude to stop the flow quickly by keeping a few extra bodies in a seat. I am not saying that if A and B have problems that you ignore one but deal with the other. My point is that they can stop a downward cascade by this process being liberal. They should not stop upward progress.

Also, did anyone notice that they admitted they did not fill all of the AE's on the ATL 7ER? They stated that at the Crew Lounge visit on Friday.

I thought that if they posted them, they had to fill em. I was told no, but that just is a little counter-intuitive to me.