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Model Citezen
Slo,
What I am saying that there are some great expectations being fostered out there. There seems to be a big parade that this JAL/DAL hook up is a great thing..... I am wanting to see and read the details before I hop on a band wagon.
I understand and agree.
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Model Citezen
Was Frankfurt also slot controlled (like NRT)? Yes
When was open skies in Europe vs Japan (Not Asia)? 2/29/96
When did UAL get the code share with Lufthansa? 5/14/97
Was not the 777 going to be the Pacific 767? Some bought it for that reason. Delta and others did not.
The 787 was to offer a smaller size 777 with longer range, better fuel economy, AND better maintenance intervals. Hopefully it will eventually deliver all those attributes...airlines have ordered 840 of them because of those features.
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Model Citezen
I truly due GET IT that any company must turn a profit. After this merger between DAL/NWA the pilots rates SHOULD HAVE matched or exceed AMR's rates at the time the deal was done.
You lose me here. While I would like my C2K rates adjusted for inflation back, reality is quite different. We got the best deal we could negotiate, including 5.6% of the company for pilots. At today's stock price, that's worth almost $600 million. That had never been done before in an airline merger, and almost everyone leaves it out of the compensation package. Also, our 777 and 73N rates are higher than American's today, and even though they never went through bankruptcy our work rules are generally better.
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For the record, Southwests pilots are where they are due to the chapter 11's in the 2000's by NWA, USAir, DAL and UAL. They were always under what the legacy's had paid. Their rates ,now in some cases, exceed wide body pay rates.
Agreed. They undercut us for years and made it up through growth and stock price appreciation.