When i got hired upgrade was running right at 2 years cuz we were losing so many people to other airlines...they were running classes of 30 fo's a month...I guess Kevin Laware might have been spoon feeding us crap like he did to the rest of the pilot group....but i remember being there a year and having my seniority in PHL 71 outta 142....right in half....it was gonna be just about another year....then everything else came crashing down lol...no pun intended