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Old 01-19-2010 | 02:31 PM
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Note, I had to remove your emoticons, the software wouldn't let me post a reply as there were too many, however;

Fair enough;

Originally Posted by Gearjerk
DJD,

Disregard the tone taken by my choice of calling you "sir" in a response to your post. I more appropriately should have included an emoticon behind it, to relay the intent of it not being a "lecture" to you or anyone else on this board.
Those things are important, you leave them out, bad things happen, very bad things .

Originally Posted by Gearjerk
My intentions were to only offer an opinion of why I believe that SWA has an industry leading contract. Anyone can have their own opinion as to why, whether it be because "the other carriers are working in the concessionary contracts of their post-bankruptcy business plans", or because SWA unlike many other companies have retained an "atmosphere" with its labor groups. Like it or not, I would put money on the fact that a "greater percentage of SWA employees (read-agents, flight attendants, and pilots) are still more happy to come to work, than someone working for a legacy carrier who has "drug them through the mud" in bankruptcy filing.
And I accept your opinion as fact, and won't dispute it, I can't, nobody can. But there was a reason in a previous post when I quoted you and I highlighted/bolded contract and left the part after that the same. It was to separate the CBA from the other factors. Nobody can argue that SW has supreme labor relations and a superior business model. However, it seems that on here (and other places) many of those things are starting to wane slightly as SW starts to confront some challenges that they haven't had to deal as of yet. Reference the threads on some of their 1-2-3 hotel rules and how management isn't securing that for them on new/renewed hotel contracts. Although not contractually guaranteed (if I'm not mistaken), it was nice perk/benefit that management negotiated on their crew's behalf. Albeit, on overhead cost they now seem to want to curtail.

Originally Posted by Gearjerk
This motivation alone gives the people of SWA and industry leading contract, not because they're paid more, get more time off, but again because of the "atmosphere and work environment" they report to each day. If you question their loyalty, try starting a thread on APC with a "bash" against SWA. See how many responses you get.
Agreed on both your points. It's a shame that the legacies could never grasp this concept. Although it could be argued that Gordon Bethune was trying in his time at the helm of CAL. Relatively speaking of course. A shame that his efforts in that area were practically erased with his follower by "kahnstahntly improving their prahhhduks and shervishes".

Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Again, not trying to lecture and not "discounting" your facts of everyone else working in a "concessionary contract". Just offering my opinion as to why I believe SWA has an industry leading contract.....................it is much more than what a person gets paid per hour. (Or per trip in their case.)

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Again, I can accept your opinion as fact as to why things are the way they are now. It's just that there were factual events prior that that led to the state of the way things are now.

I'm going to go back to coloring now.
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