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Why should the North guys have all the fun?
Any 765 guys on here who would like to file this claim?
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Seniority List Condition #3 reads as follows:
Neither the implementation of the ISSL (integrated single seniority list) nor the implementation or expiration of a condition or restriction herein, in and of itself, shall cause the displacement of any pilot from his or her then-current position (including pilots who have been awarded positions but had not commenced or completed training).
Many former DAL pilots were mandatory displaced from the 767-400 or MD-88 as a result of the movement of flying on those aircraft types to former NWA bases. Many of those pilots had indicated a willingness to follow those aircraft to the new bases and in fact bid those positions, but were unable to hold those positions as a result of more senior former NWA pilots bidding that equipment and base.
Therefore, implementation of the ISSL, in and of itself, has caused the displacement of those pilots from their then current position in direct violation of Condition #3.
Definitions:
Category = the combination of a pilot's position and base.
Position = the combination of a pilot's aircraft type, status, and classification as domestic or intl.
Status = a pilot's rank as Captain, First Officer or Second Officer
The 767-400 or the MD-88 are not fenced, neither is the A330, which a lot of DAL-S bid into.
All I'm saying is that no claim can be filed on the 765 or the MD88 based on the award, the claim as it currently stands may be a waste of time if we end up getting more 747's out of the JAL deal.
The ninjas at the fNWA are hurting and looking for a fight, some of these guys were DC-10 and 747 Captains at age 36-40 and out of seniority because of the Roberts award.
Regardless of the fences, less flying on the 747 and the 777 affect every pilot on the property, JAL aside, there are no plans to get more 747's or 777's in the near future.
Don't take the claim personal, this guys have been fighting for years to keep something that was never theirs without Roberts.