Originally Posted by
tsquare
I'm not coming down on this issue one way or the other...
Yes, you are.
Originally Posted by
tsquare
but it was YOU that called a bunch of guys thieves. So... tell us all then how is it that they were stealing?
OK, for the purpose of this discussion I'll retract that comment. You're focusing on that one word that I used (wish I hadn't), and it's distracting from the core discussion. What about the argument that it took "stones" or "getting a pair". Where's the logic there?
Oh, you were an architect at one point, so you should know logic and structures . If sick leave useage was as Captain Courageous described, why did it fall so precipitously when management enacted a call in honest policy? Are guys now flying sick? I'm sure their stress was reduced so much that they suddenly were "healthier"
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Originally Posted by
tsquare
It sounds to me llike they were well within the bounds of their contract. If they called in sick (the reason has to be reconciled in their own minds as to whether it is truly legitimate) how is that stealing?
Did you apply this same logic to all your comments about Leo Mullin, Fred Reid, Michelle Burns, et. al.? T
he reason(s) has to be reconciled in their own minds as to whether it is truly legitimate.
Dunno, but I think you called a spade a spade back then. Are you showing some situational ethics here?
Originally Posted by
tsquare
Or... are you one for the doctor's note route? Nevermind, I think I have my answer to that one.
Absolutely not, and your implication otherwise is offensive. But I'm also not one to make a reserve work when I'm not sick. I'm not one to get a senior guy rerouted for my convenience.
Originally Posted by
tsquare
Of all the people on the forums, I would think you would be defending a pilot's right to excercise his contract. But, I guess if your morals find it distasteful, even if it is within the bounds of said contract.. well then someone is obviously stealing. OK.. got it.
I will defend a pilots right to exercise his contract to the hilt. I will also not allow a fellow pilot to cost me money while abusing that contract. Remember the 1000 pilots we had on "disability" just prior to bankruptcy? Where's my LTD benefit now? My sick leave policy used to be a lot better. Management was able to make a very convincing 1113 argument that sick leave was being abused. Guess what, when the policy was degraded down to 240 hours and 75% pay after a rolling 3 year usage, data supported their point of view. Sick leave usage on the south side fell by approximately 25%. I want my old sick leave back (I'm getting old and hurt more). It will be tough when management has the data to support their position, and people like Captain Courageous draw a direct causal line between commuting policy and sick leave use.
But I guess if your morals find that ok, even if it's not within the intent of said contract...well then you're fine with it. OK...got it!