No no, you've got it all wrong... it's "they're going to take it all away anyway so we should negotiate how they take it away" They helped us out with age 65... now they've negotiated a deal on taxing health care benefits....not that I think their deal is completely ridiculous... just don't like being told well it's GOING to happen when the house bill doesn't have it and the senate bill did... sounds like a 50/50 chance to me. Of course if you negotiate a deal, then they get to say "well look labor is getting behind it and they're going to be the ones hugely affected, why wouldn't we include it in the joint bill" Thanks ALPA I love being told to shut up and take it.

Rant over, take my soapbox please and return to the topic.