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Old 01-31-2010 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by CAPIP1998
I know you mean well and you're just trying to give out some good advice, but you should know that what you're telling people is not completely accurate. I've been reading this thread (all three) with some interest and I want to clarify what appears to be some misconceptions. The union has been working extremely hard over the past 8 months to revamp the way our pilots bid upon and are awarded vacancies, and we've had a lot of success. While it is important to the Company to keep training costs down, the availability of any position is driven entirely by seniority, and any transition or upgrade will only have a one year seat lock (which can be waived by the company). The only prohibited moves are from CA to FO and from the Q CA to SF3 CA (still being worked on). It is possible that we can create a more open structure under our new contract, but this is what we have currently. Also, ALL positions are available to be bid upon and awarded prior to any new hire being allowed to bid for those positions. In fact, the final list of moves will be published tomorrow and the list of available new hire positions will be fixed for the next 5 months or so. Again, I'm only trying to clear up some misconceptions, I'm not trying to give any advice or opinion.

Thank you.
No, what you just described is EXACTLY what I am telling the interviewees. That if you get hired into a seat, you may be locked there for a year, maybe not. So if you wanted a Q FO position, but got the Saab, you should be ready to stay there for a year. Maybe you will, maybe you won't, but the company doesn't have to give you the transition. That's all I was trying to say.

brewpilot, I hadn't seen that in the awards, but that's interesting. Could this not be because the effective date of the award is after their year seat lock is up? Hard to say because the effective dates of these awards are as of yet a mystery to us. Maybe management is showing some preference to seniority after all. But, honestly, I'm more likely to blame it on an oversight than that.
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