Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
Like I said read what I wrote. Partially. I will agree that for some including you, the second part of what I wrote may have fallen on deaf ears due to the anger the lack of a further explanation. I left it simple. I think you should know by know, where I stand on this issue, and why. I hate having to reexplain the whole position on every post.
I know you are a budding union official, but I must tell you that lately your statements have included some typical political leanings. Example, saying that this thread is probably done because some internet character says management might be listening. Then others here (including me) slam this guy for attempting to squelch debate. Then I slam anyone who could have even been remotely affected by a concern that management could be listening. Then you post that the thread will live forever. This all in about 1 hours' time.
First, budding, hardly. But who cares.
I agreed with Kingbird. He has a point. My statement about the longevity of this thread had to do with where it was going. Not so much by who was watching. It was getting downright nasty and that in effect will kill all of the good debate. We have moved beyond that. There are those that want thing thread to live, and by their desire, it will. We are in effect policing ourselves'.
Carl
As for the last part. To be successful in our desires we do not need to pigeonhole the company. Here is what the PWA states for the AF JV. This is why I am not getting my panties in a wad. It is precedent setting, and IMO what will be the outline for the JV with JAL.
4. The amount of flying subject to the AF JV flown by each partner will be determined from a summer season baseline period commencing in the summer season immediately preceding the full implementation date. All growth ASMs flown above the baseline figure by the partners will be aggregated and shared between the partners on a 50/50 basis, subject to Section 1 P. 5. [/quote]
But in this case you are dealing with the Japanese not the French. They are the No 2 or 3 economy in the world and own a passel of US debt. I doubt the Obama administration is even watching this and probably cares less what happens. In my 22 years of Flying to Japan the Japs are for the Japs and my guess is that the terms of this thing are going to be bad.